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Last Viner Standing: Write Articles! Win an iPhone!

It doesn't matter if you've never written a newsvine article before in your life - this is a great opportunity to build a portfolio while engaging in the community!

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You know you want one. This contest is deliberately challenging, but completely doable.

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On August 15th I announced the resurrection of an old favorite, the Last Viner Standing contest. It generated some discussion, we came up with some ground rules and Calvin chimed in and offered some prizes from Newsvine.

The idea is to encourage everyone to publish one article per day for as long as they can. Last time, we called it quits with a 5-way tie after 30 days. This time around, we've got a really nice prize on the line - but there's only one prize, so there can only be one winner.

Start Date

This contest will begin this coming Monday, September 1, 2008. Your first entries are due by Midnight PST on Monday night.

If you'd like to participate, please sign up in the comments below.

Deadline

Articles are due by Midnight, Pacific Standard Time. That means East Coasters get until 3AM. Sorry to any non-Americans but it would prove almost impossible to coordinate this with subjective timezones around the globe - so we're all going to have to write to an American schedule.

Sick Day

Contestants are allowed to miss one day. Your first missed deadline is a freebie, you do not have to submit an article late or anything. It's the sick day rule. Don't waste it.

No Stockpiling

Articles may not be written in advance - you may start writing 24 hours before the deadline.

Posting Schedule

Instead of requiring seven days a week, contestants in this contest get weekends off. During the week, everyone has to write according to the following schedule:

  • Monday: Mondays are for current events. Your challenge is to publish an article in response to a news story, newsvine article or blog post published that day. Your article should link to that post, for context.
  • Tuesday: Tuesdays are for reviews. Publish a review - of anything! This can be a new music release, an old video game, your favorite novel or that terrible new mexican restaurant that just opened down the street. Reviews are a great way to build your portfolio (which is good for sending to publicists for free stuff!), so approach this one seriously and take the time to express yourself well.
  • Wednesday: Wednesdays are free days - you may write about anything at all, but: it must be at least somewhat News-related. I know that's a vague definition, so if you're not sure if your subject is ok ask the judges. No fiction, no poetry, no photo essays - this has to be an article.
  • Thursday: Thursdays are going to be your biggest challenge. On Thursday, you're responsible for writing and publishing a full feature article. The subject is up to you, but it's important that you do some research here. We want to see cited claims, links to evidence to support your argument, maybe some images, etc - the challenge is to write a feature essay that could be published in a news magazine. You can start your research before Thursday if you want, but the 24-hours-of-writing rule applies.
  • Friday: Finally, Friday is the fun day. On Thursday night, I will announce a "celebrity guest." They will provide you with a writing challenge to be carried out as Friday's assignment.

Tagging Requirements

Every article you post must have two contest tags. The first one is "LVS2" and the second is "LVS2-##" where ## is the two-digit number representing which post this is. For instance, your first article will be tagged "LVS2" and "LVS2-01". This system is important because it'll allow us to see, at a glance, your entire submission history.

Submissions

Every week I'm going to publish a contest update post. As contestants, you are responsible for posting links to your daily submissions in that thread. If you don't post and nobody sees your article you'll be out - so please remember to post!

Judges

We want to ensure high quality of all posts in this contest. Anyone can spit out 5 posts of drivel per week - the challenge here, and what should really have you excited, is the prospect of writing consistently good articles. To keep this contest fair for everyone involved, we're going to have a panel of 4 judges. These judges have the right to disqualify any given submission on the grounds of poor quality.

Of the four, two have already been selected and have accepted: Eric Atienza is one of Newsvine's best music writers, and a good friend of mine since High School. I can vouch for his fairness and his ability to recognize lazy writing when he sees it - so look out! Jack Gillis has made a name for himself in the Newsvine Community as, if nothing else, uncompromising. Love him or hate him, you have to admit he's got a perverse sort of integrity - plus he teaches writing.

This week I'm accepting self-nominations to fill the other two judge slots. If you're interested in participating but don't think you'll have the time to write a quality post per day, please volunteer to judge!

Finally, the prize!

Newsvine has generously agreed to provide a prize for the winner of this contest. The quality of the prize is going to be contingent upon how long this contest lasts -

  • If a winner is declared within the first 30 days, the grand prize is a $100 Amazon or Apple Gift Card.
  • If a winner is declared after 31 - 45 days, the prize is an 8GB iPod Nano.
  • Finally, if the contest continues on after 46 days, the prize is a 16 GB iPhone 3G (winner will be responsible for signing up with AT&T on their own, etc. - Newsvine will just pay for the iPhone itself. If for some reason you can't sign up for the service then you'll get a gift card for the equivalent amount to use toward another purchase)

To clarify, if everyone else drops out and you're on day 35 and the only one left, you are getting the nano. You cannot push ahead on your own.

There you have it. Final details: for legal reasons and to my great regret, I *think* the prizes are only available to people in the US. There'll be some minimal amount of paperwork (ie you'll have to sign something for tax purposes) and then that's that.

So, any questions?

Who wants to play?

Who wants to be a judge?

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{"commentId":2588284,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

I will be competing, so look forward to my 1337 5|

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  • 2 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:02 AM EDT
{"commentId":2592607,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

I've offered a few times to help judge but wasn't sure if the non-response meant anything.

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  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:43 PM EDT
{"commentId":2592754,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

And Scott is 4! Sorry, Scott, didn't mean to snub. Hard to keep track of things.

Ladies and gents, we have our Judges!

Eric Atienza
Jack Gillis
Chasing
Scott Butki

Thanks guys, and I'll leave you to plot amongst yourselves. If possible I'd like a Judges' Statement in the next few days. Thanks!

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  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:53 PM EDT
{"commentId":2592804,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

4! Sorry, Scott, didn't mean to snub. Hard to keep track of things.

It's ok, Myk.

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  • 1 vote
#1.3 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:56 PM EDT
{"commentId":2593039,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

Jack, Scott, Chasing, check your groups page (or, I guess, whatever e-mail you use for Newsvine) for invites.

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    #1.4 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:10 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2593386,"authorDomain":"mscyprah"}

    And Scott is 4! Sorry, Scott, didn't mean to snub. Hard to keep track of things.

    I hate to pour cold water over this, but I guess four MEN are all right, is it? :o)

    {"commentId":2593386,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"mscyprah"}
    • 2 votes
    #1.5 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:32 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2593477,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

    If it's good enough for the Gospel... ;)

    {"commentId":2593477,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"darkside"}
    • 2 votes
    #1.6 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:37 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2593657,"authorDomain":"mscyprah"}

    ha ha...Drat!..I didn't realise this was about religion, my mistake! :o)

    {"commentId":2593657,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"mscyprah"}
    • 2 votes
    #1.7 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:46 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2593820,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

    I didn't realise this was about religion

    If that's the case, as judge I'm going to have to rule that women aren't allowed to participate either. They can only be spectators.
    =p

    {"commentId":2593820,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"deatienza"}
    • 2 votes
    #1.8 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:54 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2593894,"authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}

    Ms C:

    I would support increasing the Jury if it gets you on board.

    Make it 6 with ties going to the author as before.

    {"commentId":2593894,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}
    • 4 votes
    #1.9 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:59 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2593944,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

    That's up to the Jury at this juncture - I am giving you the right to determine how the jury functions, up to and including adding/replacing members.

    {"commentId":2593944,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"darkside"}
    • 1 vote
    #1.10 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:02 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2593990,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

    up to and including adding/replacing members.

    I propose the first Last Viner Standing Judge Survivor contest.

    {"commentId":2593990,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"deatienza"}
    • 3 votes
    #1.11 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:04 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2594020,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

    Wouldn't hurt to have an odd number to avoid ties.

    what's the say about religion newsvine being the opiate of the masses?

    {"commentId":2594020,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
    • 4 votes
    #1.12 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:06 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2595667,"authorDomain":"mscyprah"}

    They can only be spectators.
    =p

    I love it, Eric. In true religious, inclusive form, of course!!

    Jack

    I would support increasing the Jury if it gets you on board.

    You'll have me rethinking in a minute! Are you always this gentlemanly to the ladies? :o)

    {"commentId":2595667,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"mscyprah"}
    • 1 vote
    #1.13 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:46 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2596363,"authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}

    Scott:

    The rule is, ties go to the author. We don't want articles being disqualified by a one-vote margin.

    {"commentId":2596363,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}
    • 4 votes
    #1.14 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:33 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2596879,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

    I should probably read the rules now that i'm a judge....

    man, next you'll tell me i have to read instructions before using a product or seeds before commenting on articles....

    {"commentId":2596879,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
    • 2 votes
    #1.15 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:11 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2617953,"authorDomain":"mock"}

    As a participant and reader, we would be delighted to see the celebrity guest throw out a fiction assignment some Friday. Just one.

    {"commentId":2617953,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"mock"}
    • 2 votes
    #1.16 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:08 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2689387,"authorDomain":"olivershagnastey"}

    If you want to win, take any non-issue story idea and twist and bend it radically to the far left of center and expand on it, and you will have a great chance of winning.

    {"commentId":2689387,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"olivershagnastey"}
    • 3 votes
    #1.17 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 12:39 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2692234,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

    If you want to win, take any non-issue story idea and twist and bend it radically to the far left of center and expand on it, and you will have a great chance of winning.

    You do understand this is an endurance competition? Or did your desire to score some cheap point just supercede any desire for relevance or accuracy?

    {"commentId":2692234,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"deatienza"}
    • 9 votes
    #1.18 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 9:13 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2694914,"authorDomain":"olivershagnastey"}

    Eric, I am stating the truth as I know it. Almost everything I read in newsvine recently is slanted beyond belief!

    It is sad that we can't simply state facts and not spin a web of deceit.

    {"commentId":2694914,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"olivershagnastey"}
    • 1 vote
    #1.19 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 11:44 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2697916,"authorDomain":"nancysmith54"}

    Oliver: You're confusing your opinion with fact.

    This is an endurance competition, not an opinion challenge.
    Editorials are opinions.
    Journalism is fact.
    You're confusing the two.

    {"commentId":2697916,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"nancysmith54"}
    • 3 votes
    #1.20 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 1:41 PM EDT
    {"commentId":6072844,"authorDomain":"wallemalemon"}

    so, who won the damn thing???

    {"commentId":6072844,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"wallemalemon"}
      #1.21 - Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:53 AM EDT
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      {"commentId":2588318,"authorDomain":"onlineapps"}

      w00t! I'm going to be in.

      Of the four, two have already been selected and have accepted: Eric Atienza is one of Newsvine's best music writers, and a good friend of mine since High School. I can vouch for his fairness

      I will be competing, so look forward to my 1337 5|

      Hmm... ;-)

      {"commentId":2588318,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"onlineapps"}
      • 3 votes
      Reply#2 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:05 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2588333,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

      Whoops. haha, 1337 my ass, eh? That totally cut off half my comment...

      And if anything Eric will be extra hard on me, I'm sure, so I wouldn't worry about that. I don't really expect to last anyway - but I really want the phone, so I'm gonna give it a shot.

      Glad to have you aboard, Andrew!

      {"commentId":2588333,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"darkside"}
      • 2 votes
      #2.1 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:07 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2588627,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

      Hmm...

      Heh, well if it helps I was in favor of harsher rulings against him on Newsvine Survivor at least once and I think was in on the ruling that eventually saw him voted off the competition.

      {"commentId":2588627,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"deatienza"}
      • 3 votes
      #2.2 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:31 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2588714,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

      I still wake up each morning filled with rage over that... :-P

      {"commentId":2588714,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"darkside"}
      • 3 votes
      #2.3 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:38 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2591326,"authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}

      Eric:

      Do me a favor and start a private group for the judges so we can have a group thread ONLY for the judges?

      Myk (4.1):

      With four judges we'll be able to act as a true editorial board, i.e., within parameters as opposed to rigidly objective criteria. Since "literary merit" is by definition in part a subjective and/or esthetic judgement, it's probably best NOT have publicly posted objective criteria.

      {"commentId":2591326,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}
      • 4 votes
      #2.4 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:32 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2591584,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

      Jack, that's fair enough - but I would appreciate some sort of "official statement" from the judges to be posted by the end of this week, just so everyone is on the same page. I expect you guys to be harsh.

      Can a user's first DQ'd article be counted as their sick day, if they haven't used it yet?

      {"commentId":2591584,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"darkside"}
      • 1 vote
      #2.5 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:45 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2591664,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

      I expect you guys to be harsh.

      If he's not competing, I nominate Paul William Tenny for judge.

      I also think Chasing would be a good candidate for judge.

      {"commentId":2591664,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"deatienza"}
      • 2 votes
      #2.6 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:49 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2591798,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

      Get 'em over here, I am only accepting self-nominations. That's why I didn't follow up on Calvin's suggestion in the last thread.

      If people are interested they should volunteer. :)

      (but yeah, PWT would make a great harsh judge)

      {"commentId":2591798,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"darkside"}
      • 1 vote
      #2.7 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:57 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2592035,"authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}

      Myk:

      Hmmm. I read the rules above pretty carefully. Did you include the "sick day" rule? I'd say yes, if you haven't used your mulligan you may use it to replace a disqualified article.

      I'm hoping we won't have to disqualify anyone. Seriously. If natural attrition produces a winner that would be a best-case scenario. Also, the very fact that there's now a board to disqualify crap may serve as a crap-deterent (I hope, I hope).

      But trust me. I can do harsh if I have to, as I think you know.

      :^{)>

      {"commentId":2592035,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}
      • 2 votes
      #2.8 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:11 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2592093,"authorDomain":"brianford"}

      I think PWT is a really thought-provoking guy, but man -- I think he may just disqualify *everything* as I recall some pretty strict definitions of quality from his corner...

      {"commentId":2592093,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"brianford"}
      • 3 votes
      #2.9 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:14 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2592219,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

      I added the sick day rule after Calvin suggested it below, you may still be seeing a cached version.

      {"commentId":2592219,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"darkside"}
      • 1 vote
      #2.10 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:21 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2592269,"authorDomain":"chasing"}

      I'll gladly volunteer as a judge.

      {"commentId":2592269,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"chasing"}
      • 2 votes
      #2.11 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:25 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2592339,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

      Sweet, you're in, that's 3!

      {"commentId":2592339,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"darkside"}
      • 1 vote
      #2.12 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:28 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2629753,"authorDomain":"Jerry611"}

      Much to my regret, due to other commitments, I am going to have to concede the first prize to the next to the last man standing, as I am not going to able to enter the contest.

      (Could have used that 18GB iPOD Nano,too)

      {"commentId":2629753,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"Jerry611"}
      • 2 votes
      #2.13 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:22 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2629791,"authorDomain":"RebelGirl"}

      I am in :)

      {"commentId":2629791,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"RebelGirl"}
      • 3 votes
      #2.14 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:24 AM EDT
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      {"commentId":2588430,"authorDomain":"bluejohnnyd"}

      I wanna play!

      {"commentId":2588430,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"bluejohnnyd"}
      • 2 votes
      Reply#3 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:16 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2588613,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

      Quick questions.

      If everybody drops out in 30 days except the winner, but the winner really wants that iPhone instead of the Amazon card can they just keep writing according to the contest rules until they can't, are DQed, or get to 46 days?

      Is it left to the judges to determine what we think is poor quality, or are we going to get loose guidelines?

      To keep this contest fair for everyone involved, we're going to have a panel of 4 judges. These judges have the right to disqualify any given submission on the grounds of poor quality.

      Also, to add in a part of Jack's original proposal, in case of a tie vote between the judges the decision will go in favor of the contestant. In other words, in order to be booted at least 3 judges must agree.

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      • 3 votes
      Reply#4 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:30 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2588703,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

      Right!

      Umm, I think the judges can come up with the standards for quality. I'd write it but as a participant I think that's getting a little too close for objectivity, yeah? Once we have all four, can we get you guys to quickly publish a list of basic criteria?

      Also, whether a single user can continue on their own in order to earn the phone is up to Calvin. C-Tang, can we get a ruling on that?

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      • 4 votes
      #4.1 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:37 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2590737,"authorDomain":"tang"}

      The point of the escalating prize is that as the pool of participants as a group continue to muscle on together, they have something better and better to look forward to. So, no - the prize is what it is at the time the winner wins.

      {"commentId":2590737,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"tang"}
      • 6 votes
      #4.2 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:59 AM EDT
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      {"commentId":2589402,"authorDomain":"SEOGuy2"}
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      {"commentId":2590183,"authorDomain":"fitzright"}

      It's tempting, but as a non-native English speaker/writer (hard to get past the judges) and living outside of the US (not eligible for prizes *he thinks*) I need a little bit more incentive. Plus, I already have an iPhone. Furthermore, I know already that I'm without an internet connection September 8th when I'm visiting an underdeveloped city somewhere in Europe (can we have one sick day?)

      But most of all, I seriously doubt I can write anything under this kind of pressure. So I just might give it a try.

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      • 3 votes
      Reply#6 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:26 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2590747,"authorDomain":"tang"}

      I think one sick day is a reasonable request. Myk, Eric?

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      • 4 votes
      #6.1 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:00 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2591035,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

      Sounds reasonable, I'll add it.

      Calvin, one further clarification: contest is for 5 articles per week. Does that mean that the 46 day prize is available after 45 days (about 6 weeks) or after 45 entries? (9 weeks)

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      • 1 vote
      #6.2 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:17 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2591118,"authorDomain":"mscyprah"}

      I have to say there is not much incentive here for international writers so will give this a miss. But should be interesting to see the worthy winners. :o)

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      • 2 votes
      #6.3 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:21 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2591363,"authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}

      Ms C:

      Oh then HEY THERE we need a couple more judges. You'd be perfect. Dead solid perfect.

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      • 2 votes
      #6.4 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:34 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2593460,"authorDomain":"mscyprah"}

      Oh then HEY THERE we need a couple more judges. You'd be perfect. Dead solid perfect.

      That is a wonderful compliment coming from you, Jack, thank you. But I think the time difference, as well as personal stuff, would not make input feasible, so would have to leave it to someone else. Hope it is another lady, to at least have a female input on the team! :o)

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      • 1 vote
      #6.5 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:36 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2594025,"authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}

      Ms C:

      So my cajoling above is falling on deaf ears?

      :^{(>

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      • 3 votes
      #6.6 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:07 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2595589,"authorDomain":"mscyprah"}

      So my cajoling above is falling on deaf ears?

      Afraid so, Jack, much as I would love cosying up with you guys to make decisions.
      Aww schucks..I guess one can't help being fabulous and in demand! :o)

      {"commentId":2595589,"threadId":"340192","contentId":"1787159","authorDomain":"mscyprah"}
      • 1 vote
      #6.7 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:41 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2611435,"authorDomain":"tang"}

      Calvin, one further clarification: contest is for 5 articles per week. Does that mean that the 46 day prize is available after 45 days (about 6 weeks) or after 45 entries? (9 weeks)

      I had 6 weeks in mind when I wrote "45 days", is that what you were thinking?

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        #6.8 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:03 PM EDT
        {"commentId":2611530,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

        Yeah. Does it make more sense, in the spirit of refining, to reassociate the prizes to weeks instead of days?

        So: if the contest finishes within 4 weeks, it's the gift card.

        If the contest finishes between 4-6 weeks, it's the ipod.

        If the contest lasts 6 weeks or more, it's an iPhone.

        Sound good?

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        #6.9 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
        {"commentId":2611940,"authorDomain":"EnSoi"}

        I remain in like Flynn :-)

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          #6.10 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:38 PM EDT
          {"commentId":2612205,"authorDomain":"brianford"}

          It's also worth noting that you stand to give a $100 gift-card to a person who only writes two articles, if only one person remembers to comply, or if all of the initial entrants are bad, etc. Shouldn't (at least) the first prize require a week's worth of sticking it out?

          Also, if someone is voted out -- their article sucks -- can they then spend their sick day?

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          #6.11 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:55 PM EDT
          {"commentId":2612323,"authorDomain":"hugo-gnzlz"}

          I am also still in! Hope my articles are not too bad.

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            #6.12 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:05 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2612486,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

            Also, if someone is voted out -- their article sucks -- can they then spend their sick day?

            I believe the judges said yes, but I'll let them address that formally in the Judges Statement which I hope we will see by Friday.

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              #6.13 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:17 PM EDT
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              {"commentId":2591413,"authorDomain":"darkknightjrk"}

              Not sure how far I'd get, but I really want that iPhone or at least the Amazon card, so I'm definately in. :D

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              Reply#7 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:37 PM EDT
              {"commentId":2591603,"authorDomain":"brianford"}

              1) I'm out. I'm out of town for business for a month in San Antonio, and won't have time to either judge or participate.

              2) Re: Judges. If someone's piece is disqualified, will that assessment come early enough for the person to have a chance to resubmit after the ruling? If so, will the ruling include editorial suggestions? Or, will the person simply be out of the contest, once the ruling is handed down?

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              Reply#8 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:45 PM EDT
              {"commentId":2591662,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

              Ah, bummer - I was really hoping you'd step up as a judge. Good questions, though - and I will let the judges handle them.

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              #8.1 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:49 PM EDT
              {"commentId":2591698,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

              I'm in favor of not having resubmission. I want peoples' best effort the first time. I'd rather not provide a cushion of "well, I'm pressed for time and if it's not good enough I can fix it later".

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              #8.2 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:51 PM EDT
              {"commentId":2591780,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

              Right, plus that puts unfair pressure on the judges to get something scored in time for a possible resubmit - they can't guarantee that every time, and so it would be unfair to institute it.

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              #8.3 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:56 PM EDT
              {"commentId":2592139,"authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}

              Eric:

              Agreed on resubmissions.

              Brian:

              Come on. "Early enough"? If the Thursday submissions are as substantive as Myk wants, I probably won't read them carefully enough to rule until Saturday.

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              #8.4 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:16 PM EDT
              {"commentId":2594739,"authorDomain":"brianford"}

              How will that work? Rulings will be for the week? So, someone could conceivably write a piece on Monday that doesn't qualify, but not find out until after they've written further pieces for the week?

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              #8.5 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:48 PM EDT
              {"commentId":2595036,"authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}

              Brian:

              How will that work?

              We don't know yet.

              I do not see how it's possible to rule before the deadline since items could go up at 2:59 am eastern, which means we could be well into the next day before a ruling is issued anyway. Looking at Myk's schedule and knowing my own, I'm roughly confident that IF NEEDED I can help issue rulings on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays.

              So if someone puts up a disqualifying article, there's a chance they may write one more before the guilty verdict is rendered. Figure that as part of the punishment for posting crap to the front page.

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              #8.6 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:07 PM EDT
              {"commentId":2599821,"authorDomain":"barry-rutherford"}

              somehow I will have to determine the cut off time for me her on the East Coast of Oz I guess your using New York Eastern time Yes?

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              #8.7 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:52 PM EDT
              {"commentId":2600017,"authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}

              Barry:

              What's the time difference with Bejing where you are?

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              #8.8 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:10 PM EDT
              {"commentId":2600108,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

              I guess your using New York Eastern time Yes?

              As noted in article, Pacific Standard Time. NY Eastern - 3:00 hours.

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              • 1 vote
              #8.9 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:16 PM EDT
              {"commentId":2602988,"authorDomain":"barry-rutherford"}

              Beijing is 2 hours behind us it is right now 5.33 pm Wednesday 3.33 pm Beijing..

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              • 1 vote
              #8.10 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:36 AM EDT
              {"commentId":2603971,"authorDomain":"finalcut"}

              well Bejing is 12 hours ahead of NYC (convenient that the entire nation of China is one time zone so I can remember that).

              So you are 14 hours ahead of NYC time - that gives you a big advantage on getting your submissions in on time :O) Since that puts you 17 hours ahead of PST.

              That almost seems impossible.

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              #8.11 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:21 AM EDT
              {"commentId":2626852,"authorDomain":"barry-rutherford"}

              that gives you a big advantage on getting your submissions in on time :O)

              only on the first day...

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                #8.12 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:04 PM EDT
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                {"commentId":2591890,"authorDomain":"EnSoi"}

                I'm in like Flynn.

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                • 2 votes
                Reply#9 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:02 PM EDT
                {"commentId":2592931,"authorDomain":"ririaroo"}

                I like the new rules.

                I'd love to attempt to participate but I'm busy that first week of September and I might need a break after that.

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                • 2 votes
                Reply#10 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:05 PM EDT
                {"commentId":2593839,"authorDomain":"lele"}

                Sounds like fun, unfortunately for me.... not enough time. :'( Good luck!

                How 'bout if I give you all a copy of my dissertation in November instead? hahaa

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                Reply#11 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:56 PM EDT
                {"commentId":2593860,"authorDomain":"onlineapps"}

                When do we start on the first article?

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                Reply#12 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:57 PM EDT
                {"commentId":2594022,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

                On Monday.

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                • 1 vote
                #12.1 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:06 PM EDT
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                {"commentId":2594347,"authorDomain":"mock"}

                I'll try it. Been practicing. Oof.

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                • 1 vote
                Reply#13 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:25 PM EDT
                {"commentId":2594885,"authorDomain":"pmags"}

                In.

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                • 1 vote
                Reply#14 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:56 PM EDT
                {"commentId":2595057,"authorDomain":"pmags"}

                Wait. Looked at the rules again. No poetry at all?

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                • 2 votes
                Reply#15 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:09 PM EDT
                {"commentId":2595849,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

                If a guest ringleader asks for poetry you may write poetry. Otherwise, no - this is for "journalism" and high-quality Op-Ed.

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                • 2 votes
                #15.1 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:59 PM EDT
                {"commentId":2598272,"authorDomain":"pmags"}

                High quality Op-ed. I may be out of my league. I'll give it a shot. Gotta do something at least once.

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                  #15.2 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:56 PM EDT
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                  {"commentId":2595079,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

                  I'm in. Of course, I highly doubt I'll be able to compete for long, but regardless it should be interesting to see how things go :)

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                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#16 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
                  {"commentId":2595568,"authorDomain":"hugo-gnzlz"}

                  This whole thing is new to me, but I always wanted to see how good a writer I am. I am in.

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                  • 5 votes
                  Reply#17 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:40 PM EDT
                  {"commentId":2597205,"authorDomain":"barry-rutherford"}

                  put me down will be interesting to me to see how long i will cope ...

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                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#18 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:39 PM EDT
                  {"commentId":2603013,"authorDomain":"barry-rutherford"}

                  No really I look forward to the challenge quill pen and ink pot at the ready !

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                  • 2 votes
                  #18.1 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:42 AM EDT
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                  {"commentId":2599507,"authorDomain":"nancysmith54"}

                  Count me in.
                  I've sharpened my crayon. I'm ready.

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                  Reply#19 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:30 PM EDT
                  {"commentId":2608150,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

                  Just realized this, but nobody's going to have a problem starting on Labor Day, right? No vacations interfering or anything?

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                  Reply#20 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:59 PM EDT
                  {"commentId":2609600,"authorDomain":"hugo-gnzlz"}

                  absolutely not, if that should be every ones sick day, no? lol

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                    #20.1 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:11 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":2612693,"authorDomain":"onlineapps"}

                    Yeah, I do have a vacation that day.

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                    #20.2 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:33 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":2612705,"authorDomain":"thevineofhob"}

                    There's just this little convention thing, but I'm pretty sure Calvin expects me to write something from that anyway.

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                    #20.3 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:34 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":2612900,"authorDomain":"onlineapps"}

                    Going back to Labor Day, can I do mine a couple of days early? Or do I need to take a sick day?

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                    #20.4 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:49 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":2657761,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

                    After deliberation, consensus is that you'll have to take the sick day.

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                    • 4 votes
                    #20.5 - Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:06 AM EDT
                    {"commentId":2658245,"authorDomain":"onlineapps"}

                    Crap. OK, I should be back in late afternoon, so I might have time to whip up an article.

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                    • 1 vote
                    #20.6 - Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:02 AM EDT
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                    {"commentId":2612239,"authorDomain":"al-lee-katz"}

                    I'm in. This sounds like a lot of fun and I imagine it will be very competitive. Luck is random so I'll say God bless (peace, prosperity, health and happiness to you and your articles).

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                    Reply#21 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:57 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":2612695,"authorDomain":"thevineofhob"}

                    @!$%# it, I don't even know the rules, but I guess I'll be in until you kick me out. After some RNC articles to start the month off, I'm thinking I'll have to sports theme everything ;-)

                    Also, do the articles have to be in written form? Say, would a podcast count (that would be for Wednesdays the "free days"?)

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                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#22 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:33 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":2612829,"authorDomain":"jfxgillis"}

                    Adam:

                    Yankees ... uh ... suck? For once I don't mean it insultingly or fearing that they don't suck.

                    Did you see the NYT story on yesterday's game? One of the funniest and cheapest shot I've ever seen in a lede in the NYT sports page.

                    Let's see. The Repubs will give you a week's worth of essays, the Yankees sucking will give another week, and by then Brett Favre will suck, giving you a total of three weeks covered.

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                    • 6 votes
                    #22.1 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:44 PM EDT
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                    {"commentId":2612910,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}

                    No way I could pull off participating, but it sounds like a fun event to watch!

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                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#23 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:50 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":2613300,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

                    Well give it a shot, see how long you can last!

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                    • 1 vote
                    #23.1 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:24 PM EDT
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                    {"commentId":2613338,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

                    For the record: as of right now, in the interest of fairness, I humbly submit to the will of the judges for any further rule changes or clarifications.

                    A big Thank You to Eric, Jack, Chasing and Scott for agreeing to facilitate this. Let me know if you need me to update any of the rules above.

                    Best of luck to everyone!

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                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#24 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:28 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":2622208,"authorDomain":"nancysmith54"}

                    Myk:

                    Are you going to start a fresh article right before start-time that enumerates rules, tag requirements, assignments, prizes, etc all in one place? (You may have answered this already--I'm in a rush right now and can't read through all of the other emails. Sorry if this is redundant.)

                    Thanks.

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                    • 1 vote
                    #24.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:23 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":2622230,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

                    1) I will post a "Week One" thread on Monday, and link to it from here, so keep an eye out for that.
                    2) I am expecting a judges statement that finalizes all rules, hopefully today or tomorrow.

                    Right now I'm spending time trying to get some interesting guest judges. :)

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                    • 1 vote
                    #24.2 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:25 PM EDT
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                    {"commentId":2614326,"authorDomain":"Kiser"}

                    Well!

                    I take break from Newsvine for a while this is what I come back to? Sweet.

                    You can consider me in when the judges give full listing of the rules, etc.

                    This should be a good way to get back into the flow on Newsvine after my hiatus from here and Listen In (Sorry, Eric! I'm sending you an email shortly). My grandfather was feared to have thyroid cancer so I had to deal with that, back to school, and other not so fun stuff, but everything has calmed down now enough that I can get back in the mix.

                    No promises I'll last very long, but what the heck.

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                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#25 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:14 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":2614533,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

                    Well you know, Tuesdays are review days... =p

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                    • 2 votes
                    #25.1 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:38 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":2614606,"authorDomain":"Kiser"}

                    That's what I was thinking.

                    But Tuesdays are also WNIM days. Which means I'd be writing 2 articles a day. Any way you could permit me to use Wednesdays for What's New, at least until the this darn thing is over?

                    That would also use up my Wednesday free day each week.

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                    • 3 votes
                    #25.2 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:45 PM EDT
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                    {"commentId":2614837,"authorDomain":"darryloliver"}

                    Count me in

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                      Reply#26 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:12 PM EDT
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